With talk of 'redemptive tale,' "The Sinister Six" movie is already sounding like a bad idea

Gargamel, Mumm-Ra, Skeletor and Cobra Commander, ShredderIt used to be the bad guys were bad. There was no need to explain them or come up with some back story to explain why they became so villainous. It was simple enough for them to be bad and that was all. I didn’t care why Cobra Commander wanted to take over the world, why deep down Skeletor wanted to get into Castle Greyskull or why Drago kept beating down poor Apollo.

So it kinda bothers me in reading Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach’s comments with IGN about the plans for the “Sinister Six” movie as it seems like they’re more interested in making these six bad guys anti-heroes.Spider-Man Sinister Six

Tolmach: There’s no such thing as just a villain. There are villains by virtue of choices that people make but they always begin as humans, as characters. As flawed people; as tragic people.

You know great movies have been made about a bunch of bad guys who get together to do something. Yeah, I mean, there’s a huge tradition of it. Those are sometimes the greatest characters to watch. A bunch of broken people coming together for whatever reason.”

The Sinister Six“As long as there’s that one thing in common: they’ll hate Spider-Man,” Arad says. “They’ll hate him because he’s so different from them. But then, you know when you sit by yourself somewhere and you think about it, they all had a different life at one time and that’s what’s so beautiful about the Spider-Man universe.

They have amazing stories if you look at it. And everybody’s looking for redemption; they’re unforgiven. Would you see one of the Sinister Six starting to feel like that? Yes. And people love it, by the way. They love when a villain finds his way back because we’re all very forgiving.”

I’m actually just fine with a villain being … a villain. I’ve got the hero to root for and sympathize with — Spider-Man perhaps being the best example of the down on his luck hero who can never catch a break.  I don’t need his punching bag suddenly developing this sad story so I feel bad about his schemes getting thwarted. My least favorite comic or wrestling storyline? Those that turn a great villain into a hero that lacks all the things that made them a great character in the first place. Can you imagine a “Superman II” spin-off that tried to show General Zod, Non and Ursa as characters looking for redemption? Ugh. Maybe I’m overreacting, but I don’t like it one bit. We’ll see soon enough I suppose.

“As long as there’s that one thing in common: they’ll hate Spider-Man,” he says. “They’ll hate him because he’s so different from them. But then, you know when you sit by yourself somewhere and you think about it, they all had a different life at one time and that’s what’s so beautiful about the Spider-Man universe. They have amazing stories if you look at it. And everybody’s looking for redemption; they’re unforgiven. Would you see one of the Sinister Six starting to feel like that? Yes. And people love it, by the way. They love when a villain finds his way back because we’re all very forgiving.”
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“As long as there’s that one thing in common: they’ll hate Spider-Man,” he says. “They’ll hate him because he’s so different from them. But then, you know when you sit by yourself somewhere and you think about it, they all had a different life at one time and that’s what’s so beautiful about the Spider-Man universe. They have amazing stories if you look at it. And everybody’s looking for redemption; they’re unforgiven. Would you see one of the Sinister Six starting to feel like that? Yes. And people love it, by the way. They love when a villain finds his way back because we’re all very forgiving.”
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  • That was ONE of the problems of Spiderman 3. Why can’t bad guys BE bad guys? *sigh*

  • Exactly! No need to make it deeper than that.

  • Ben

    The issue that Sony has is it is forcing a wider Universe that doesn’t exist. If they concentrated on making a decent Spiderman franchise, using one of the best Rogue’s Gallery there is, then they wouldn’t have to force character traits into villains so they can create stand-alone movies. I love Venom as a villain but don’t want to see him in a stand-alone movie (not before he’s met Spiderman anyway).

  • keith

    what did I say about fox this week. Im starting to feel the stench already coming from spiderman movies. The only of the sinster six who can even sniff was the sandman who did turn good. The rest… just a bunch of ego maniacs who would stomped on people if spiderman didn’t stop them from getting their way. who would want to root for norman osburne?(republicans?)

  • Totally agree Ben. There’s maybe, maybe a Spider-Clone saga, a Black Cat spin-off, but I don’t see many other viable spin-offs that would pack audiences in theaters.

  • And we already got good guy Sandman in “Spider-Man 3.” Not sure why we’d need to revisit that at all. I’d root for Osborne the same reason I’d root for Luthor, a good bad guy to get beat down in the end by the good guys.

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